What is the work? What is the wisdom?

Join host Sterling Freeman as he sits down to chat with guests Kathleen Crabbs and Gita Gulati-Partee. Kathleen is a leadership and equity educator and coach, and a partner in organizational and cultural systems change. Gita Gulati-Partee is a the founder and principal of Open Source Leadership Strategies which researches, designs and evaluates racial and social justice efforts as well as builds capacity for racial and social justice organizations, movements and leaders around the world.